Show detail for Grateful Dead - 10/10/80
Show Date10/10/80
VenueWarfield Theater
CitySan Francisco
StateCA
Set 1Acoustic Set

On The Road Again
It Must Have Been The Roses
Monkey & The Engineer
Jack-A-Roe
Dark Hollow
To Lay Me Down
Heaven Help The Fool
Bird Song >
Ripple
set2Electric Set 1

Mississippi Half Step Uptown Toodleloo >
Franklin's Tower
Me & My Uncle >
Big River
Candyman
Beat It On Down The Line
Row Jimmy
New Minglewood Blues
Althea
Jack Straw
set3Electric Set 2

Scarlet Begonias >
Fire On The Mountain
Samson & Delilah
Big Railroad Blues
Estimated Prophet >
Eyes Of The World >
Drums >
Space >
Truckin' >
Nobody's Fault But Mine >
Black Peter >
Around & Around >
Promised Land

Encore:
U.S. Blues
CommentJerry Garcia - Guitar
Bob Weir - Guitar
Brent Mydland - Keyboards
Phil Lesh - Bass
Bill Kreutzmann - Drums
Mickey Hart - Drums
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Last Update2018-11-22 23:22:36
Date Entered2001-07-10 22:15:08
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10/10/80 - Source: Recording (attributed to) Bob Menke: Nakamichi CM700 Mics (3)>Mixer>Sony D-5 from Balcony, Center
Remaster: 1st Gen. Cassette>JVC TD-W309 (w/pitch correction)>Tascam DA-20mkII>Tascam CD-RW700 by Douglas Ferguson, via Roual Duke, SHN Conversion by Matt Vernon
User Media Type Media Count User Source Info Notes
A.D.Y. ListFLAC1Source: Matrix (SBD/AUD mixdown):

SBD:
Acoustic: SBD>MR>PCM>DAT>CDR>EAC>SHN
Electric: MSR>C>C>DAT>WAV>SHN (C>DAT Conversion by Cousinit)
General Notes:

Given the multiple sources available on the Llama, I put the effort into
editing a matrix of this often overlooked gem of the Warfield run from
the Dead Set and Dead Reckoning live session recordings in the fall of '80.
There may be better overall played shows from other nights at the Warfield
and also their Radio City counterparts (don't forget the Saenger in NOLA),
but my motivation here was the best versions of Althea and Jack Straw that
I have heard, not to mention an excellent Scarlet>Fire. The Jack-a-roe is
the version on Dead Reckoning (aka For The Faithful), and the quality of
the acoustic set SBD is very crisp, probably close to the multi-tracks.
The electric SBD is not as nice, but when coupled with the AUD, the show
really comes to life. The electric SBD is also plagued by many holes, the
worst being that there is no SBD for most of Truckin' and then through the
rest of the show. All things equal, Althea, Jack Straw, Scarlet > Fire are
completely sick, and worth the matrixed effort, not to mention it was fun
doing an acoustic set too - the audience element is cool; and even though
it's a balcony recording, the Warfield is small enough that the intimacy
is still present and desirable.

Timeline/Tracking Notes:

Not much music is missing from the AUD, but the SBD lacks good coverage,
except for the upgraded acoustic set which has more in between song tuning.
The transition between all three discs can be put together seemlessly. The
show tracks well for 3 discs (2 of them 80 min. discs), and even though
it's a 3 set show, I felt it important to keep it to 3 discs. This way
the end of the second set and the beginning of the third set are on disc 2,
and that's where the nuggets are anyway.

Editing Notes:

- Pitch
Both sources were pitched differently, the SBD being the sharpest,
and the AUD being the flatest. I used the SBD as my master timeline
and pitch referenced the AUD to it. The AUD on average had to be pitched
up about .28 (28 cents) to achieve pitch correction - 1.00 being
100 cents which is a semitone. However, this pitch differential did
fluctuate throughout the show, and was especially tough in Row Jimmy as
the reels on the SBD were running out. Big RXR Blues is funky too.
I did not reference A=440 as I did not desire to pitch adjust the SBD.
It is very close though to A=440, albeit a little sharp.

- Synch
Because of the speed fluctuation within a given source, multiple edits
were performed to keep the sources synched. Because the SBD was my
master pitch and time ref, the AUD was synched to the SBD (too many
edits to list).

- Sonic Quality/Matrix ratio
I did choose to employ a slight amount of limiting to the SBD (Waves L2)
to give it a slight amount of punch and presence. For the electric SBD
source I had to employ some noise reduction as the hiss is a little much
and takes away from the matrix sonically. Waves X-Noise was used to
accomplish this task, in which I used the "learn" function which isolated
the hiss through frequency spectrum analysis and drew an appropriate graph
for EQ. I was then able to solo just the noise being "reduced" and found
that almost no music was being lost, thus an optimum result. Conceptually,
all I was trying to do here is to add some dimension to the SBD, which is
pretty dry but very crisp, by using the ambience of the AUD. The result
is a lively but clear recording, hopefully close to how it sounded at
the show. If I had to guess the SBD/AUD ratio would be somewhere between
3:1 and 4:1, leaning more towards the 4:1 end of things.

- Edits
The following are places where the SBD and AUD had holes or incomplete
coverage in reference to the final matrix timeline. I also edited out
reel pauses from the SBD where appropriate (like places where the AUD
is the only source because the SBD has been paused) to provide an
enjoyable listening experience. I left them in where the SBD was the
only source (like the beginning of Estimated).
ALAN J FINK    
Andrew Patrick 3Nakamichi CM700 Mics (3)>Mixer>Sony D-5Whole show; 1st set acoustic
BillWAV1 disc 3 only
Bob Abrams    
brett garveySHN3Nakamichi CM700 Mics (3)>Mixer>Sony D-5gd1980 21 of 30
Built2Last 3  
cbass    
Chris Daviscdr3Source: Nakamichi CM700 Mics (3)>Mixer>Sony D-5 by Bob Menke from Balcony, Center Remaster: 1st Gen. Cassette>JVC TD-W309 (w/pitch correction)>Tascam DA-20mkII>Tascam CD-RW700 by Douglas Ferguson, via Roual Duke, 
Chris HornerSHN Nakamichi CM700 Mics (3)>Mixer>Sony D-5 Remaster: 1st Gen. Cassette>JVC TD-W309 (w/pitch correction)>Tascam DA-20mkII>Tascam CD-RW700 Conversion: CDR > EAC (secure) > Cool Edit (minor clean up) > cdwav (retracking) > mkwact & 
CMN    
coachnatebeanSHN2Source: Nakamichi CM700 Mics (3)>Mixer>Sony D-5 by Bob Menke from Balcony, Center Remaster: 1st Gen. Cassette>JVC TD-W309 (w/pitch correction)>Tascam DA-20mkII>Tascam CD-RW700 by Douglas Ferguson, via Roual Duke, SHN Conversion by Matt Ver 
CTDEADHEADSHN2 AUD
Dave Sandersshn2  
Dean TholeSHN2  
denanceshn3 Nakamichi CM700 Mics (3)>Mixer>Sony D-5;1st Gen. Cassette>JVC TD-W309 (w/pitch correction)>Tascam DA-20mkII>Tascam CD-RW700;CDR > EAC (secure) > Cool Edit (minor clean up) > cdwav (retracking) > mkwact > shn (seekable)
Doug Moogshn3AcDC 
dpsshn2Source: Nakamichi CM700 Mics (3)>Mixer>Sony D-5 by Bob Menke from Balcony, Center Remaster: 1st Gen. Cassette>JVC TD-W309 (w/pitch correction)>Tascam DA-20mkII>Tascam CD-RW700 by Douglas Ferguson, via Roual Duke, SHN Conversion by Matt Ver 
Eric Richbourgshn2  
Gary FieldSHN2AUDSource: Nakamichi CM700 Mics (3)>Mixer>Sony D-5
GratefulBradcdr3Nakamichi CM700 Mics > Mixer > Sony D-5Complete - Audience - This is the first tape I listened to. The first words I remember hearing was..."everybody's playin' in the heart-of-gold band..."
JDshn2Nakamichi CM700 Mics (3)>Mixer>Sony D-5 by Bob Menke from Balcony, Center Remaster: 1st Gen. Cassette>JVC TD-W309 (w/pitch correction)>Tascam DA-20mkII>Tascam CD-RW700 
Jeff Mitchell    
Jeremy Workmancd3 have shns (2)
Ken BerrySHN2  
Kenneth BarnerSHN3 1 acoustic set, 2 electric sets
Kimashn3  
Larry    
Larry SandersCDR3  
LossLess LegsCDR3Nakamichi CM700 Mics (3)>Mixer>Sony D-511/26/2006 - quimbo
Marc Deardorffshn2  Nakamichi CM700 Mics (3)>Mixer>Sony D-5 by Bob Menke from Balcony, Center Remaster: 1st Gen. Cassette>JVC TD-W309 (w/pitch correction)>Tascam DA-20mkII>Tascam CD-RW700 by Douglas Ferguson, via Roual Duke, SHN Conversion by Matt Vernon
Mark GaySHN3 13989
Matt VernonSHN3 complete aud including acoustic. set 1 electric Candyman, BIDTL, Althea & Jack Straw are good. Set 2 is marred by the oscillating left channel but the Estimated > Eyese > DRums > Truckin > Peter > Rnd & Rnd combo is fairly common and this rendition didn't stand out for me
Michael McMullanCDR/SHN3AudAcoustic and Electric Sets
MrStevecd3 mic>cm>dat>cd
My HomeShn Source: Recording (attributed to) Bob Menke: Nakamichi CM700 Mics (3)>Mixer>Sony D-5 from Balcony, Center Remaster: 1st Gen. Cassette>JVC TD-W309 (w/pitch correction)>Tascam DA-20mkII>Tascam CD-RW700 by Douglas Ferguson, via Roual Duke, SHN Conversion by Matt Vernon 
neal r 3 207
Rich GaulSHN2  
Richard D. Jordanshn2Nakamichi CM700 Mics (3)>Mixer>Sony D-5 
Richard Warrenshn2 13989
Rick ChildsCDR3  
sean hiteSHN  (13989) Grateful Dead: Source: Nakamichi CM700 Mics (3)>Mixer>Sony D-5 by Bob Menke from Balcony, Center Remaster: 1st Gen. Cassette>JVC TD-W309 (w/pitch correction)>Tascam DA-20mkII>Tascam CD-RW700 by Douglas Ferguson, via Roual Duke, SHN Conversion by Matt Vernon
SIRMickSHN2  
steveCDR3  
Steve BlanchardSHN3Nakamichi CM700 Mics (3)>Mixer>Sony D-5Complete show
Steve SawyerSHN3AUD 
Steve Swartz    
T Buckleyshn2 MAC(Nakamichi CM700 Mics(3)>Mixer>Sony D-5)>1st Gen. Cassette>JVC TD-W309(w/pitch correction)>Tascam DA-20mkII>Tascam CD-RW700>CDR>EAC(secure)>Cool Edit>cdwav>shn(seekable)
thrakshn3Nakamichi CM700 Mics (3)>Mixer>Sony D-5 by Bob Menke from Balcony, Center Remaster: 1st Gen. Cassette>JVC TD-W309 (w/pitch correction)>Tascam DA-20mkII>Tascam CD-RW700 
tom kunzshn2  
Tommy Brame (shn) 2  
Tony HandmakerSHN2 Nakamichi CM700 Mics (3)>Mixer>Sony D-5
wally-brewing 3 d25
WillySHN3 Nakamichi CM700 Mics (3)>Mixer>Sony D-5 by Bob Menke from Balcony, Center Remaster: 1st Gen. Cassette>JVC TD-W309 (w/pitch correction)>Tascam DA-20mkII>Tascam CD-RW700 by Douglas Ferguson
winterland121072    
x poordevilcdr aud3d2,d3,d4 aud source, Nak CM 700mics(3)dnl,re-master:1st gen cass>JVC TD-w309(w/pitch correct) Tascam DA 20mkII
ziko    
zowiecd3aud 
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